it's a nsx, yes, but in the end, it still has honda in front of it.

no norco, the rules for the fourm changed, and i decided that talking about biking would be a good thing considering it is a biking website, now grow a pair of balls and learn when to shut the f*ck up. and iron horse, the same thing that's happening to your bike, it collected dust and got old. now, i'm done replying, turn 5 and gain some knowledge.

First get old enough for high school, then we can talk.

i'm sorry ironhorse, i confused your posts with that of graphxxx's.

first off, as i mentioned before, at least once, if not more, i think England is the greatest country in the world. that being said, i doubt that people in your country would have people such as ironhorse and graphxxx representing it either, otherwise, our nations would not be allies.

In conclusion, IF the (insert what ever swear you want here) Canadians on pinkbike weren't such JERKS to the Americans on this website, then i would not feel the need to defend my country. This website shouldn't be about people from other countries slandering America, or Canada, for that matter, it should be about BIKING as the name implies. I shall not be replying to this anymore, for it is boring and tiresome trying to understand typo-graphical errors (proved is spelled that way, not "porved"), while i could be out biking.

Have a good day!

really now? and were the shopping malls run down, are your relatives over 300lbs and super poor?

would you be willing to ship this fork to vermont if i paid for it?

every country has it's flaws, and America isn't an exception. but to say that america is a horrible place is simply something that people who have never visited the country have to say.

maze, feel free to jump in at anytime, really, this is quite entertaining.

"actually you probably have the most messed up life already" no actually i don't, i use my time for MOUNTAIN BIKING, which isn't a waste, or a way to mess up my life, and i apologize, i took that as "you are wasting your life"

and did i say that you were wrong, ABSOLUTELY NOT (notice i can type in all caps just like you can, but it really isn't worth wasting my time to do), i just pointed out that they were polar opposites.

and finally i would like to point out that i am indeed Canadian, really, i am, it says so on my birth certificate, oh, and i DID live in Canada for years, now if you went to ANY person who you consider smart, which i am beginning to think includes Adolf Hitler, and asked them if a person born in Canada, is Canadian, and try to argue that they aren't, you will make yourself look like the complete idiot that you are.

now, i am done with this conversation, although it has been fun

No, the world doesn't rotate around me thank God. No it doesn't rotate around the United States, or Canada or any other country for that matter.

and no, if you consider mountain biking a waste of my life, then you are probably on the wrong website.

"inferiority complex, caused by one of many things but most commonly neglect or over attention by parents" ok, seriously dude, those two things are POLAR opposites, like the north and south poles, or like what you have said and the facts. opposites.

yes, you're right i did screw up that math, how i don't know, but let me show you some math. 1+1=2+1=3+1=4+1=5 or 1+1+1+1+1=5, if you try to debate that, then you are an idiot, ok? want me to break it down a little more? ironhorserocks+lilwalters+moron1777+graphxxx+xwhyteyx=5, now do you honestly think that there are only 5 people in all of pinkbike? really, i'm fighting with all of pinkbike? do your own math, oh and i have received no less than 6 messages from people who think that you are an idiot and need to be shut up, oh, and 2 were Canadian.

now as for where you got your information, all you are using is opinions, and how could those have come from Wikipedia? that's like saying "what's your favorite color" "blue" "wrong" i mean come on, that answer obviously didn't come from Wikipedia.

oh and i'm 17.

one more thing, I'M CANDAIAN genius, yeah i took the time to spell it right that time, i was born in CORNWALL ONTARIO, Canada, thus making me Canadian, think about it.

excuse me? now your going to sensationalism, when did i accuse Canada of anything? and no, you're not the cause of all the problems in the world, its a combination of every country in the world.

and a fact does have to be proven, and you said that .033% of an amount of people is a good number to judge the whole group on, i would really like you to find ANY survey of ANY kind who uses that percentage, or less, to prove their side of the story, other than you of course.

so i don't take the time to correct every single spelling error, just like you don't like to check the facts to check and see if they are true or not, you just put them up there in a way that sounds good, hoping that everyone will automatically think it's true.

umm i wasn't speaking to you genious, i was speaking to "Moron1777" and my name is the phonetic way to say bike mechanic in Japanese.

your name fits you perfectly moron.

100,000 random people out of approx 305 million people or 100,000/305,000,000 which is like .033% of the population, you must think that all american's are rednecks because that's about the same percentage. oh and i have taken two courses on statistics and if it were even 1% of the population i might agree with you, but not .033%. and when did bush become a part of this conversation?

hardcorefairfield, your an idiot, al quidea is the group of extremists. and my father is a pastor, and no where does it say that in the bible.

no actually you are wrong, every 10 years, as i have stated i don't know how many times, the U.S. government does a census of EVERY household in America, and that is what all of the statistics are based on, and your an idiot if you think that a survey of .05% of the population is even close to enough of a group to make an accurate prediction of, then you really need to do some thinking. and bush is no longer our president, you would know that if you actually kept up with the times.

oh i've listened to it, i hear it every day from every single american, and i have considered it, honestly i have, but the facts are so simple, you are trying to use sensationalism to rpove hard facts wrong, next you are going to be saying that 9/11 was done by the government.

and thank you for telling me them, i learned something new today

and marty, the whole world is slowly going into an economic crisis, and america is definately going downhill economically.

you're an idiot, the first two videos are from a country that is in the middle east, just click on their channel and read the description, they are the first english speaking news orginazation, in an ARAB country, says so right in their description, once again i ask you to use good sources.

and maybe you should acctually walk into a country before judging it, and yes we do have poverty like the rest of the world, especially in a post katrina USA. and no, we aren't the best country in the world, in my opinion england is, but we are the counrty that gets put down the most because people like talking crap about place's they have never been. for instance iraq, the iraqi people are GLAD that we are over there fighting for their freedoms, but you wont find that anywere unless you talk to acctual soilders who have acctually been over there.

oh and i have watched the reports from the poors, i have seen the other side, i went on a "missions trip" to the worst part of new orleans after katrina to help clean up, i've seen it, i used to drive through the bad side of jackson mississippi every day to get to school, i know how bad it can be, but your trying to tell me that america is a third world country and that is not a fact.

umm, polls of 1,000 people are usually accurate for 10,000 or 100,000 if your really lucky, but your judging the whole country by .05% of their population, personally i don't think that's very wise.

maybe you should learn to accept when your wrong. take a look at those sources, and actually read the sources that you put up, and then you may be able to put up an argument that goes past third grade level. and your number keeps hanging, first it was 35 million, then it went to 12.5% and now its down to 30 million, how interesting. oh and please stop swearing, it's doing nothing to get your point across, it just shows that you are mad, which you really shouldn't be.

ironhorserocks, i enjoy debating with you, and hope this does not cause any hard feelings in the long run. and am not offended by anything you have said.

that being said, American solders are not allowed to engage any enemy combatants without being engaged first. that is what the solders are ordered to do unless they are on a specific take down mission and in that case if a possible combatant points a gun in your, or your team's direction, you are ordered to open fire immediately so that you team will be protected from possible gunfire, thus saving your team's a*s. now i would give you a source for that, but i am unsure about how to use my uncle, who just left for his third tour of duty in Iraq, as a source.

and i'm just curious, who are the other four super powers? i'm not asking to start a debate, i'm asking simply because i don't know the answer to that.

now as for American solders being allowed to do what ever they want in Iraq, that is total rubbish. American solders who have killed civilians have been issued with a dishonorable discharge and i would say that the vast majority of them are facing court marshal charges.

as for the killing of the dog, my computer would not let me play the video, but blaming the action of killing the dog on anyone more than the solder, or squad as the case may be, shows how hard you are trying to win this argument, but do you honestly think that the U.S. government provided orders to kill that dog? absolutely not!

and the last time i checked, we were debating about racism and poor rates, not the war on terror.

now as for you graphxxx, this is the link to your source, which you gave me:

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/poverty07/pov07hi.html

now if you read the first line of the website, it clearly states that it is an ESTIMATE judged from a survey of 100,000 people, so basically what you are saying is 35% of all Americans are in poverty judged on a survey of .05% of the American population. wow you must be a genius.

and the actual census of the united states, is taken every 10 years, read the first line on this site:

http://www.stlgs.org/governmentCensus.htm

first off, the reason we are at war has nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction, that's why we went into Afghanistan not iraq,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHbV5CSj51I

that video is pretty much why we are at war, 9/11 was a declaration of war against the west, ignore the facts if you must, but there they are right in front of you. and the Taliban is in both iraq and Afghanistan, as you should know. and honestly i don't know much of anything about the conflict in Afghanistan.

i lived in Jackson Mississippi for 2 years of my life and have no problem with black people, and living there has showed me the fact that most blacks are on welfare, not because they lack the information or knowledge, but because they simply don't want to have to work for 8 hours a day, and spend their money on lottery tickets hoping to get lucky, and don't tell me that's not true, because my mom owned a gas station, and the regulars who bought lottery tickets, were, yes, you guessed it, black. and Oprah couldn't sell her multi million dollar toilets to give the money for the poor? no of course not, she has to take a crap on gold. and the reason she is so loved is because she has connections, personally she donates hardly any money to people, she finds foundations that donate the money for her, so she can keep getting paid.

about that census, first off, the census is taken every 10 years, thus the next time it will be taken is in, yup you guessed it 2010, oh and you are clearly blind, here is a quote from that source.

"2008 Annual Social and Economic Supplement (ASEC), the source of official poverty estimates. The CPS ASEC is a sample survey of approximately 100,000 household nationwide"

your judging the entire country based on approx .005% of the population, 100,000 people, thats 1/3 the population of our smallest state which is Wyoming who's population is about 300,000. so umm, maybe try to actually read how many people are being surveyed.

well i am an American, and your the type that we hate. and wikipedia is ussually wrong about statistics, just like you have been, so if igured that would be where you got your information.
a) they declared war on us, i'll find a source for ya.
b) very true, but thats because certian banks, decided to give out loans without doing their homework, and has almost nothing to do with politicians at all.
c) i definately agree with you on that one.

obama has lke no experience, and he is walking into a mess, thats a huge red flag to me. also there is a high chance that he will be assassinated by the kkk, which is a very unforutnate reality, and if that does happen, i fear that america would be split in two and we would have another bloody civil war.

oh please, say something else that you found on wikipedia ironhorse, oh and your the reason that most americans hate canadians, because you (specifically you not all canadians) think they know everything about a country without even stepping foot in it. personally i like canadians, they know how to ride the mountain and have some pretty hot chicks.

graph, your an idiot, oprah doesn't care about anything except women's rights, and making herself look good. you see, your the reason why most americans hate canadians, you don't have good information, find a source to prove there are 30 million people living in poverty in the usa, but you will find that there arent any, because that isn't true. oh and listening to canadian news doesn't tell you much about a country that the reporters have never stepped in, during their whole life. oh and the only reason why we have any black's in poverty, is because they tend to try to make easy cash, for instance oprah, who cares so much about the poor that she has not one, nor two, but three solid gold toilet's in her malibu mansion.

whytey, i was unaware that canada pulled out of iraq, thank you for the information. well since there are 30 million people in poverty we must be living too decadently, yeah they do have a point, and it is "kill anyone who isn't muslim" btw i'm just referring to radical islam, contrary to popular belief not all muslims are radicals. oh and fyi, i am a democrat, not a republican.

oh i believe that, american's love their beer, but i never said canadians were people who drink beer all day, because they arent. we hate cuba because they tend to harbor people who hurt americans, but you wouldn't know that, your too busy drinking your beer. excuse me? you forget about 9/11, it was a decleration of war against the "western" cultures, so we are simply defending ourselves, besides canada is in iraq too ya know.